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I've got one tokay in a 20gal tank, but would like to get at least one more. Problem is I don't know what sex it is! Is there a tank size where I can safely house at least 2 tokays irregardless of their sex?

Thanks!

Howie
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Digger)
1.1.0 Golden Geckos (Tevye & Golde)

A Twenty gallon tank is probably OK for a pair. Two males will fight though. Here's a link showing how to sex them. Good luck

Quig
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I do strongly, very strongly, disagree!
Tokays can be hardy and thus survive for decades under quite inappropriate housing conditions if climate and food are not too deviant from their needs.
But by nature they are active lizards which roam around and rzun a lot each night.
How can a 1 footer do this in a 20 g ?????
Keeping adults in a 20 g tank is thus somewhat -well, in fact more than somewhat- cruel.
I would not recommend to keep this species in tanks less tall than 4 " and with a volume of less than 55 g.
In fact even bigger is better.
As a standard I hence recommend 100g and up.
I have a breeder pair in a 120 g and a breeder group in a 770 g -and I still see quite a difference in agility.
The tokays in the 770g are much more active.
Even in that big tank the gex use every inch of all walls.

In a 20 g (or 55g) the risk that tokays of any sex fight each other is much higher than in bigger tanks.
But regardless of tank size, two males normally do not get along.
I once hat two brothers which really showed some kind of lifelong bonding -but that was a rare exception.
Even in the 770g it was not possible to let even a son of the offspring grow up to adulthood.
So first get a significantly bigger tank for your tokay. That is the most important, inevitable thing to do now.
Later you may think about a mate for him/her

Ci@o

Ingo

Ingo, you're right, I stand corrected. Brain musta shorted out temporarily. For some reason I wasn't considering the size they can become as adults, or the actual size of a twenty gallon tank, just that I knew the males would certainly fight if put together. By the way, how big is the one in the first pic? That boy's got some jowls on 'im.

Quig

That guy hatched in 2000. Closing the tank I accidentally clipped of his tail and thats why nobody bought him.
So I kept him. Today he has reached almost exactly one foot in total length, but with the regrown tail, which is shorter than an original tail.
His weigt slightly exceeds 240g.

Ci@o

Ingo

and, is he one that can be handled ? I'd hate for somethin' that size to latch onto me. He's massive.

Quig

Oh no, he can not be handled. Everytime I catch some of his offspring to sell them or to prevent the tank from overcrowding I have to use gloves. He protects his babies well, but cotton gloves suffice to prevent bleeding.

Ci@o

Ingo