Reply by willstill — 2016-10-05 14:09:42 GMT

Hi,

Yes, I have a group of 2.2 infernalis that I was raising together. One of the males bred both females at 8 months of age. Both girls grew big follicles. One reabsorbed and the other dropped 5 slugs under a year.

Will

Reply by jsun — 2016-09-09 05:11:28 GMT

Sorry, I just realized that I posted this in the wrong forum.

Reply by ejhoene — 2019-05-19 02:18:24 GMT

Wicked looking garter. I wish this forum was not dead!!

Reply by drwtw — 2016-10-28 15:01:31 GMT

Beautiful it is! Thank you for sharing. David - Illinois

Reply by boxienuts — 2016-05-12 23:37:01 GMT

That's awesome Brian.Congrats on seeing such an awesome animal in the wild. I assume you helped it get far away from the highway so she would not be getting smashed any time soon?
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Reply by SnakeyLakey — 2016-03-23 21:22:36 GMT

I do not trust facebook.
I do NOT have (or want) a facebook account.
I refuse to sign up for facebook.

I have not been here much since my wandering garter, Tev, regurgitated a piece of thawed catfish, and died.

Reply by JYohe — 2016-03-19 01:22:40 GMT

dead..........beyond dead.....
Facebook killed it...
and that's weird too...page after page and the same crap for sale...has to be garter babies out there right now...some people bring them out early ...

..........anyways.........Hi.....good luck....
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Reply by SnakeyLakey — 2016-03-19 00:17:38 GMT

Hi,

I haven't been around much; but I do drop by once in awhile.

Yeah, kingsnake.com does seem to be pretty dead.

Reply by aprilrussell — 2018-05-11 03:26:05 GMT

Wow man, spectacular! Its clearly axanthic, but looks to have some other pigment absences as well. Good score.
run 3

Reply by willstill — 2015-09-08 14:22:49 GMT

Hi Jeff,

Wow man, spectacular! Its clearly axanthic, but looks to have some other pigment absences as well. Good score.

Will

Reply by boxienuts — 2015-09-07 03:29:53 GMT

Plus this snake has a great personality and I have already grown fond of it.
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Reply by boxienuts — 2015-09-07 03:18:43 GMT

Thanks, not much to look at if a person is into bright colors, which I am, but it is unique and I am happy to be able to work with this new morph.
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Reply by CindySteinle — 2015-09-04 12:56:29 GMT

>>This snake was found in Pennsylvania
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That is gorgeous!

Reply by ejhoene — 2015-07-24 02:20:13 GMT

Shame to not get this snake into a breeders hands

Reply by ejhoene — 2015-07-11 16:40:49 GMT

That is a cool garter. What are your plans with it

Reply by bushsnake — 2015-07-10 22:50:48 GMT

Thamnophis sirtalis semifasciatus aka Chicago garter

Reply by ejhoene — 2014-10-15 00:16:25 GMT

Northern brown snake. Looks feisty lol

Reply by JYohe — 2014-10-07 23:17:22 GMT

ok

Georgia

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Reply by boxienuts — 2014-08-20 12:26:50 GMT

Nice group Tim. Looks like the santas are born stocky like parents..
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Reply by BobS — 2014-07-17 15:18:53 GMT

Very nice!
Do you find the bluer the belly when babies that they stand a better chance of having the nice blue adult color?

Reply by BobS — 2014-07-17 15:21:34 GMT

Very cool. Congratulations!

Reply by boxienuts — 2014-05-10 04:04:08 GMT

That is a solid litter Mike. Congrats
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Reply by ejhoene — 2014-05-07 03:33:44 GMT

Very cool litter!!
Good luck with them
Ed

Reply by mike_panic — 2014-05-04 22:09:28 GMT

I'm pretty happy with this litter. Lets see what they look like in six months. Sorry for the crappy baby pic. I will take better shots as they grow. Thanks for looking. Mike Panichi

Reply by mike_panic — 2014-05-03 23:11:39 GMT

Thanks Jeff. Ill post up some pics when she drops. Mike

Reply by boxienuts — 2014-05-03 03:17:18 GMT

Mike, I think it is absolutely a worthwhile project to selectively breed for high white. I have been working on a couple selective breeding for suttle variance and actually the results can be amazing IMHO, often more exciting that the standard pool of recessive genes. Best of luck. Hope you make lots of babies. Maybe we swap some babies.
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Reply by mike_panic — 2014-05-02 13:02:54 GMT

Thanks Jeff. I agree I don't think she's an actual hypo but the way i see it, if they can be selectively bred for more red or blue, they can be selectively bred to have less red or blue. Since I keep them for at least six months anyway, I will be able to see if any are showing the moms coloration or lack there of. I bred her to male that had some of the white tipping, although not as much as her. We will see. Thanks again. Mike Panichi

Reply by boxienuts — 2014-05-02 05:16:50 GMT

Jeeze, wish I would have kept her seeing how sweet she looks now. I do have her redder sister. I think she is the hypo line from Felzer,sorry. Personally I don't think they are hypos per say, the infernalis have natural variation, and that is more on the extreme end. I doubt that trait will bred true. My guess is if you bred that female to a more red male you will get lots of inbetweeners in the babies. I have two females and one is more like your red one and one looks more like the whiter one.
Regardless you will have a lot of nice babies on your hands soon. Good luck with them.
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Reply by mike_panic — 2014-04-30 00:53:22 GMT

Thanks Jeff. She's the female I picked up from you two seasons ago. I really never got the history from you but I figured if I could reproduce some high white babies I could, in theory anyway, start a high white line. Anyway, thanks again. Mike Panichi

Reply by boxienuts — 2014-04-30 00:26:16 GMT

They look great Mike, looks like you are going to have a lot of babies on your hands soon.
The high white one looks a lot like the ones that Scott Felzer produced a couple years ago that he called hypos.
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Reply by CindySteinle — 2014-04-30 12:14:47 GMT

So bright! Nice holdbacks.

Reply by mikefedzen — 2014-04-20 08:10:23 GMT

Amazing pics once again! The ones with the red are crazy.
Also dont know if you were still interested but I had a pair of spotted mexican milks breeding up a storm last week.
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Reply by willstill — 2014-04-09 13:53:59 GMT

Wow Tim,

Those guys look like they have been selectively bred for generations. Those reds look as impressive as any eastern flame. Good finds man.

Will

Reply by OrangeHeterodon — 2014-04-09 13:30:57 GMT

Very nice, I really like the red/orange ones. All I get in NW Fla is standard Eastern Garter Snakes haha.

Reply by OrangeHeterodon — 2014-03-24 16:47:07 GMT

Mind they are naturally thin snakes. At 20 inches, nose to tip of tail, a healthy one is about the width of a No.2 pencil. Ribbon snakes can and will OVER eat. I use to have a communal tank of 11 juvenile Eastern Ribbon Snakes. One of my females ate so many cricket frogs that she had one in her mouth, still kicking, because she physically could not swallow any more. I had to pull the live one out and then the first dying one that I could reach and put her in a different tank and then get a different one to eat the dying one via a pair of feeding tongs haha. A good size food item is 2 times the girth of the snake at its mid-body. These are good and filling and will allow the snake to grow at a steady and health pace. You can easily see where in the body the food has stopped either because its in the stomach or being blocked by more food. From experience you have some wiggle room with getting the amount of food to give the snake correct. I always kept the food in a separate enclosure (fish) and would introduce some frogs about once a month.

Reply by snakemother — 2014-03-21 14:38:28 GMT

Thanks so much for all the information! We're definitely going to use it all - moving him to a bigger tank, substrate and such, climbing items and a basking spot. I really appreciate your response.
He's already gained weight since we got him, I think he was too thin. I'm going to try to post a couple pics so maybe you can let me know what kind of Ribbon he is?
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Reply by OrangeHeterodon — 2014-03-19 13:59:22 GMT

Their land habitat must be kept dry. Despite being semi-aquatic the can develop moisture sores which can become lethally infected. I have always followed the advice of dry land to save myself the head ache. The snakes will go into the water when they are ready to be moistened again. I usually use cypress mulch kept dry with a handful of damp sphagnum moss in a corner. I mean damp, not moist, just enough so that it isn't dry and crispy. A good amount for 2-3 ribbon snakes the width of a pencil and about 1 1/2 feet long to hide in can be measured by:

Take several compacted 1-handfuls of dry sphagnum, drench and soak it in water. Take only compact one handful and squeeze it dry as much as possible, and then fluff it up and put it in an area where the snakes can hide. This acts as an effective "moist-hide" that many snakes that like higher humidity usually enjoy having.

A spot to climb under a heat lamp is good too because they really enjoy getting high up to get nice and warm. Its been about a year since I have kept an Ribbon Snakes so I don't remember the basking spot temp off the top of my head, I do know that I used a 75 watt heat bulb though.

As far as keeping up with water they do defecate in it which requires water change as soon as noticed, as they drink from the same water. Also, luckily you only have one, as only 2-3 fish should be kept in the water dish at a time, unless mosquito fish, another pro to this species, as they can withstand oxygen starved waters for longer periods of time compared to many other fish species used as ribbon snake food. If more than 2-3 standard feeder fish or guppies are used, they may die and foul the water. Just be sure to check water daily for feces and dead fish.

A heat pad on the warm corner of the cage works too, especially if you add a cutting of household carpet over it to avoid direct belly-glass contact which can be a little too hot for the snake.

Also a monthly substrate change is highly recommended.

Reply by OrangeHeterodon — 2014-03-19 13:47:25 GMT

Chances are it may have been CB, just not CBB. People that breed Thamnophis usually breed garter snakes, not ribbon snakes. A diet of fish is best. Unlike their garter snake relatives, ribbon snakes rarely if ever take f/t pinks. I have kept dozens of Eastern Ribbon Snakes (Thamnophis sauritus) over my life and have always given them a diet of fish, cricket frogs, invasive greenhouse frogs, BABY toads, and earth worms.

Feeder fish are an okay staple but I would variate the diet as these fish are not as nutritious as a pond / lake captured fish. What I did is I did breed my own, but not a store-bought species. I filled up a 30 gallon storage container with water, mud, and some plants from the swamp behind my house. I let it fill up with mosquitoes for a few weeks and then I dumped in 40 Mosquito Fish. They ate up the mosquitoes, and began to breed and produce my own stock of mosquito fish. The mosquito fish will eat red worms, earth worms, black worms, and blood worms (mosquito larvae) as well so keeping them fed is no problem. As ribbon snakes get larger small sunfish and kilifish are good too. Point is, they are mainly fish eaters. A variation of fish is good to use, but from experience I just don't like using normal feeder fish as they are like junk-food and they tend to stop eating other fish. The chances are that the Ribbon Snake was wild caught as I said above, so catching fish from local ponds (if it was a local ribbon snake) should be no issue.

Adding small frogs to the diet if they are not protected in your area is good too. Thamnophis of all specific epithets love small frogs. Earth worms are very nutritious and these, unless you use pesticide/herbicide in your yard, can be obtained in your yard. I usually collect my earth worms from fertilizer free areas of a yard that does use fertilizer (my yard).

Eastern Ribbon Snakes are semi-aquatic snakes that also love to climb. A large water dish for their fish and soaking is good to have too.

Reply by mikefedzen — 2014-03-07 06:54:44 GMT

That is awesome dude thanks for sharing. Hope I'm lucky enough to produce one next year.
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Reply by ejhoene — 2014-03-06 01:16:00 GMT

Hey Tom
Pairings so far this year are.
1 100% het mel poss het anery x 100% het mel poss het anery
2 snow eastern x ery albino eastern
3 albino flame eastern x 66% poss het silver eastern
4 melanistic eastern x ery albino eastern
5 florida albino x mel eastern
6 florida albino x floria albino
7 ery 100% het albino x ery albino
8 "het" pied x "het" pied

What plans do you have this year?
Ed

Reply by TOMDICKINSON — 2014-03-04 13:25:15 GMT

Nice Ed, what are your plans this year?

Reply by ejhoene — 2014-03-02 23:06:51 GMT

He was born from 2 Het's that I got from Scott in 2005. He made it to adult hood and died in his first brumation. I never had much luck with this line but they are hands down my favorite garter in the pure white form.