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  <description><![CDATA[In North America Nerodia is the genus of nonvenomous colubrid snakes commonly referred to as water snakes. Nerodia species vary greatly, but all are relatively heavy-bodied snakes, sometimes growing to 4 feet or larger. They have flattened heads, with small eyes that have round pupils, and keeled scales. Some display distinct banding, others have blotching, and some have diamond-shaped patterns. Most are brown or olive green, with markings being brown, or black, yellow or cream-colored accenting is common.

As their name implies they spend the vast majority of their time in, or very near permanent sources of water and can often be found basking on tree branches which overhang slow moving streams or ponds. Their primary diet is fish and amphibians, and they are quite adept at catching both in their aquatic environment. They will also consume rodents.

Here you may post messages or questions pertaining to all aspects and issues regarding the keeping, breeding, health, and conservation of all Water Snakes.

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  <title>&quot;Pond&quot; in Brown Water Snake enclosure</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by jackneeson &mdash; 2018-07-31 05:47:00 GMT</p><p>Hello,</p>
<p>I would like to build a pond to install in the enlosure to put some small fish or tadpoles in for it's night hunting. The current idea is to use a foam filler, cut a mould from there and cover in fibreglass, so as to keep it light weight. Also, while drying, I'd like to cover the whole pond with sand to make it seem more natural.<br />
My question is, is fibreglass a good material to use for this purpose? The snake will be feeding and drinking from this pond, so I don't want any negative impact on the snake or the fish/tadpoles inhabiting the pond. Can any chemicals from the fibreglass contaminate the water? Also, if there are any other ideas on building the pond, taking into account that I'd like to keep it as light as possible,</p>
<p>Any help will be apprecited.</p>
<p>I didn't find the right solution from the Internet.</p>
<p>References:<br />
http://www.sareptiles.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=31518<br />
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  <title>Ever been bit by a water snake?</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by crowek &mdash; 2018-06-21 13:41:11 GMT</p><p>HI,</p>
<p>I guess the thread on snapping turtles seems to have stablished, non-scientifically at least, that snapping turtles in the water would bite only rarely, if ever.My next question...how aggressive are water snakes....in the water, or on land.Any stories?</p>
<p>Any help will be apprecited.</p>
<p>I didn't find the right solution from the Internet.</p>
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http://www.myccr.com/phpbbforum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=42041&start=0<br />
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  <title>Please recommend snake </title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by crowek &mdash; 2018-06-21 13:39:36 GMT</p><p>HI,</p>
<p>Can anyone recommend a snake remover / catcher in Pretoria East?We live next to a green belt area with a dam and plenty of frogs and cane rats (and thus snakes) and virtually no natural enemies for snakes. We've had numerous problems with snakes before (but only water snakes, herald snakes and house snakes). However, last Sunday our dog got bitten by a night adder (in broad day light I may add). We don't want to make another generous contribution to some vet's beach house, so we need to address the snake problem in our garden.We have 2 particular problem areas in our garden which may be the place where the snakes gain access or hide out; however, I must stress that I need the snake catcher to search that area for any nests / snakes / eggs, and that he may not necessarily find a snake as such. But we need to do the searching, before implementing plans to try and keep the snakes from gaining access to the area. We are of course willing to pay for the person's service and time.</p>
<p>Any help will be apprecited.</p>
<p>I didn't find the right solution from the Internet.</p>
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http://www.sareptiles.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=32880<br />
<a href="https://jobs.vidzzy.com/hire-custom-explainer-video-animation-service/" target="_blank">Custom explainer video service</a></p>
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  <title>Water snakes</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by MichaelSmith &mdash; 2018-05-14 03:39:25 GMT</p><p>Hi,</p>
<p>I live in muscote bay and most of my trip to the boat this spring I find a water snake or two or three. Resting on the cover, floor of the boat, Evan hiding in the compartments and coming out during our time on the water.<br />
Any advice on how to keep them away?</p>
<p>Any help will be apprecited.</p>
<p>I didn't find the right solution from the Internet.</p>
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http://forum2.quintefishing.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=21195<br />
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  <title>Gulf Salt Marsh Snake (?)</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by fliptop &mdash; 2017-08-06 15:04:10 GMT</p><p>While kayaking in the St Pete/Tampa area, I was lucky enough to spot this young Gulf Salt Marsh Snake. In looking at online examples, the pattern looks a little off. Is this a hybrid? Thanks!<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by crimsonking &mdash; 2017-08-07 01:18:06 GMT</p><p>Hi Andy. It's a mangrove salt marsh snake. <img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" border="0" alt=""><br />
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by lenrely &mdash; 2015-09-29 20:46:12 GMT</p><p>I spent some time enhancing my terrestrial cover sites over the winter with natural materials and things people will not steal, which resulted in just a single find this year.  Modern doors it turns out are made of a cardboard material that disintegrates, and water levels rose over a metal site thanks to beavers.  I’ve been inspired to try something different this time based on a find someone posted:  Black landscaping fabric folded over and secured with rocks near the water’s edge.  I’ve seen this used in stream restoration projects and could easily be mistaken for one esp. in the right location.<br />
I used to think N. sipedon didn’t use covers at all because of the scarcity of materials at the water’s edge which are almost always moved.  Then I discovered a site where some rusted metal serves the dual purpose of providing a home for a family of snakes and visitors are completely unaware of their presence.    The owners moved these about 4 feet and no snake has used them since; instead they are using an ugly sheet of plastic that is closer to the water, but only on days when it has dried out completely from rains.  I think this means they want a dry space that is covered both above and below, and possibly smaller spaces where they can escape to the water easily.  This is why I thought of folding the material to make a pocket and placing rocks to make spaces around them.  I don’t use minnow traps because I can’t monitor every day.</p>
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  <title>massive regina</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by lenrely &mdash; 2015-07-17 03:13:10 GMT</p><p>I've heard of queen snakes as big as an adult water snake but never saw one until now.  When I saw a head sticking out no bigger than my pinkie I assumed there were two different snakes.  Found at a busy public boat launch on a reservoir, not the small stream where you'd expect to find one.<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by fliptop &mdash; 2015-08-03 01:18:31 GMT</p><p>Wow!</p></div>
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  <title>Video of provoked feeding response</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by lenrely &mdash; 2015-05-14 23:40:05 GMT</p><p>a plainbelly in south texas I believe<br />
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  <title>Baby NWS</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by simias &mdash; 2014-11-07 01:10:19 GMT</p><p>having unexpected trouble switching my litter of 2-month old NWS from live minnows, which they eat with gusto, to frozen/thawed.  They seem to need the movement, but offering bits of thawed fish in front of them doesn't do it for them.  Advice?</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by lenrely &mdash; 2015-01-27 21:03:25 GMT</p><p>I've seen hatchlings in the wild taking river shiners that beach themselves on the shore and presumed this is a large portion of their early diet.  I don't think wild snakes avoid fish with thiaminase, their diet just has a lot of variety.  You could mix things up with finger bass, tadpoles, mudminnows, darters etc from the nearest creek even in winter.  I wouldn't expect a young snake to take prepared food, they haven't lived long enough to provoke the feeding response.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by simias &mdash; 2014-11-14 00:06:31 GMT</p><p>and although I'm inclined to agree that certain fish species are best avoided, I'm sure you know that there are no actual data on harmful effects on growth or mortality rates in any piscivorous snake in relation to thiaminase.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by simias &mdash; 2014-11-13 16:21:57 GMT</p><p>thanks for the tapping advice. Yes I know all about thiaminase and long term effects, this is just about getting them started before switching them to mice.  Neither rosy reds or goldfish or any frozen fish are really healthy diets for watersnakes, except occasionally.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by McKenzieS &mdash; 2014-11-09 00:10:46 GMT</p><p>Tap them on the side with the piece of fish; I've found that most Nerodia respond to prey items brushing up against them.  When you say, &quot;minnows&quot;, exactly what do you mean?  The &quot;minnows&quot; sold in bait shows are usually shiners, which are members of the Carp family along with goldfish, and so are the so-called &quot;rosy reds&quot; often sold in pet shops as feeders.  All of those fish are very high in a dangerous enzyme called thiaminase, which inhibits Vitamin B absorption, vital for survival and development of the snake.  Thiaminase is especially dangerous for young, growing snakes, and can and usually does result in serious neurological issues.  I've found it best to try and get them onto f/t mouse pinkies if possible, and if not that, then cut pieces of thiaminase-free fish from the supermarket, such as tilapia, trout, ocean perch, salmon or flounder.  The article I linked refers to feeding predatory fish, but the information can be applied to any piscivorus animals.<br />
<a href="http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_6/volume_6_1/thiaminase.htm">Thiaminase</a></p></div>
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  <title>corn snake eating nerodia</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by Lenrely &mdash; 2014-09-03 14:17:26 GMT</p><p>As if yesterday's litter of 49 wasn't interesting enough (I had brought the snake to a public park and people were watching the babies come out), I decided to keep one in the tank with a little corn snake.  Big mistake!</p>
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  <title>49 babies born on Labor day</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by Lenrely &mdash; 2014-09-03 14:04:14 GMT</p><p>First time I've ever photographed this.</p>
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  <title>I know it&apos;s a water snake, but what kind</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by Ebby &mdash; 2014-05-23 15:35:42 GMT</p><p>Caught this fellow yesterday. Before I release, I would like to know what kind of water snake it is. Any ideas?<br />
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<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Lenrely &mdash; 2014-05-27 20:34:29 GMT</p><p>Looks like N. Sipedon, maybe a female?</p></div>
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  <title>NWS Project</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by RobHarvey &mdash; 2014-05-18 15:01:37 GMT</p><p>Here's a nice head shot.<br />
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  <title>NWS Project</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by RobHarvey &mdash; 2014-05-18 15:00:11 GMT</p><p>Love this snake! What do you guys think?! Time will tell if genetic, but... Anery... Locality... just different. We should be seeing some babies this year.<br />
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  <title>Water Snakes (Nerodia) Easiest To Feed?</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by Dolemite &mdash; 2014-04-15 06:50:35 GMT</p><p>I have had all kinds of snakes since 1965. But when a recently caught Nerodia Fasiata Confluens(Broad Banded Texas) scarfs up canned mackerel..... that is sweet.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by OrangeHeterodon &mdash; 2014-04-16 13:43:23 GMT</p><p>Water Snakes, Ribbon Snakes, and Cottonmouths all seem to scarf down fish-smelling food items without hesitation. Sometimes WC ones must be acclimated to captive feeding using live prey, but every time I have kept the first two and a friend of mine that has kept 3 of the last, the snakes always swap to pieces of fish and/or canned fish, making feeding and water maintenance a lot easier. A tame water snake can make a wonderful semi-aquatic snake pet because they feed like machines, don't escape easily like ribbons, and are not venomous like cottonmouths. Even nippy ones are amazing if you are okay with some nips to show off.</p></div>
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  <title>Hypomelanistic Broad Banded Water Snake</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by Dolemite &mdash; 2014-04-13 19:24:31 GMT</p><p>It appears that I have a breeding population of these Hypomelanistic Broad Banded Water Snakes on my ranch in Texas. I caught and released a specimen 3 years ago larger than this one pictured.  I caught this one yesterday. He immediately gorged down some minnows from the creek where I caught him. The habitat is sandy rock creek that is close to the color of this snake. Also the southern copperhead is prevalent and the color similarity in the field is amazing. The most preponderant snake is the water moccasin and Texas rat snake. I have seen regular patterned broad bands in various ponds my cousin has. I also just built a pond of my own one year ago and it is already populated by water snakes of which species I have not yet determined. I have never bred snakes but I am going to investigate breeding this one.<br />
<img class="img-fluid" src="http://gallery.kingsnake.com/data/26608BBbowl-med.jpg"></p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by cochran &mdash; 2014-06-02 12:32:06 GMT</p><p>Wow! That is spectacular!! I've been looking for a hypo and have some interesting offers for a trade deal!Let me know if you're interested! Thanks! Jeff</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by JYohe &mdash; 2014-04-15 23:40:48 GMT</p><p>think whole food items for long term...</p>
<p>canned fish is ok....but if you can afford them and find them....rat pinks and mice work well...and you need to feed less...and the waste smells ..well...it still stinks I guess....</p>
<p>....water snakes get more friendly really quickly I found once...I took 5 home...2 4 footers and 3 2 1/2 plus ones....(saw 18 got 5 , they were in walls and under boulders so can't get them all)...<br />
anyways...bite like all that...in like 3 days...fine  ....not crazy...<br />
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........JY</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Dolemite &mdash; 2014-04-15 06:20:34 GMT</p><p>This Pink Lady/Boy(don't know yet) just ate Canned Mackerel- Honey Boy brand !<br />
Now that is a convenient, cheap, abundant, accessible feed.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Dolemite &mdash; 2014-04-15 06:16:12 GMT</p><p>I will do that if I can find one... water snakes are the toughest to catch.. unless you are a skindiver !</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by JYohe &mdash; 2014-04-14 22:25:16 GMT</p><p>IF you live in Texas and are breeding the Texas broad banded water....breed it to a Texas broad banded water from the same place....even a dark one if you wish...(I would breed 2 hypos...well...3...)...</p>
<p>......locality stock....keep it that way....</p>
<p>please....</p>
<p>it is sweet looking....<br />
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........JY</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by Dolemite &mdash; 2014-04-14 20:05:42 GMT</p><p>Thanks for that information. I believe I am going to try breeding this one with a to be purchased regular Florida Nerodia Fasciata .<br />
<img class="img-fluid" src="http://gallery.kingsnake.com/data/26608BBbowl-med.jpg"></p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by OrangeHeterodon &mdash; 2014-04-14 13:31:37 GMT</p><p>It seems that Hypomelanistic Nerodia fasciata sp. in the wild seems to be a trait that isn't necessarily rare, but not common either. I have found some areas with rather high concentrations of hypomelanistic Nerodia fasciata fasciata, but never an area with a &quot;complete&quot; population. The highest I have ever found averaged out to 2 hypomelanistic for 1 standard. There is an area in Northwest Florida that I go to that seems to have the same trait in the population with the highest &quot;pure hypomelanisitic&quot; population centered around a lake, becoming rare the further from the lake that I go. I'll have to get a picture next time I see one there.</p>
<p>In any case, I REALLY love the way hypomelanistic broad-banded water snakes look. You are quite lucky to have a population on land owned by you so people don't go and catch them all. Nice find! <img class="img-fluid" src="https://forums.kingsnake.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" border="0" alt=""></p></div>
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  <title>Nerodia fasciata fasciata</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by OrangeHeterodon &mdash; 2014-04-08 02:19:01 GMT</p><p>Lets see if anyone notices anything &quot;off&quot; about this pictures besides the amazing coloration of this individual animal.</p>
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  <title>Moisture Sores</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by OrangeHeterodon &mdash; 2014-03-26 01:05:06 GMT</p><p>Does anyone know what it is that causes Water Snakes, specifically banded water snakes, to develop moisture sores? I have previously been under the impression that spending too much time in the water causes it, and I have known a few people that this has happened to. However I have had a baby Nerodia fasciata fasciata for half a year now. It has a clean area on land with places to hide, but it spends all of its time in the water, day and night. This is why I ask, may it be poor water quality that causes the sores? Such as too many chemicals (tap water or polluted water from outside), too alkaline, too acidic? I use 1 part purified distilled water 1 part pond water from the pond I collected the snake in behind my house. No sores have developed and the snake is healthy,eating well, and growing well. My question is, what besides just too much water causes moisture sores? Thank you.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by OrangeHeterodon &mdash; 2014-03-30 18:16:28 GMT</p><p>No mine is fine, no sores at all. I was wandering what has caused some of the other people I know who have kept banded water snakes to get them? They used tap water for their snakes which is why I think it may have been contaminants from the water purification plant that their water comes from or something? The only other thing I can think of besides chemicals from tap water is perhaps a parasite that was living on the fish that they fed their snakes?</p>
<p>As far as mine goes she has no sores, hot side of cage at 85 cool side room temp (74). There are as many areas for it to hide on the land portion as I can fit, as well as bask. I might try adding a normal branch so that it can be over the water on the water side of the cage, just like they do in the wild.</p></div>
<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Reply</strong> by DanW &mdash; 2014-03-29 11:55:48 GMT</p><p>Most likely this is bacterial in nature.  There is no reason for you to use pond water which is teeming with microbial life some of which may be good and some not.  Switch to straight purified water or tap water.  <br />
Then I would try and keep him from spending so much time in the water.  What are your temps like?  If undesirable, this could send him in the water bowl.  Any chance for mites?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Dan</p></div>
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  <title>Who has used Zilla caloric supplement?</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by lenrely &mdash; 2014-03-03 18:35:45 GMT</p><p>Here is my experience so far with this product for aquatics that are picky eaters.  My large female NWS was eating 5 toads per meal until I changed the bedding one day and she stopped recognizing them as food.  Zilla appetite stimulant didn't change this behavior but was an excellent liquid food, however while it was sufficient for keeping hatchlings alive through the entire winter, the adult was getting skinny (I presume because liquid nutrition has no fat in it) so I started forcing creek chubs into her for mass along with the supplement.  After 3 months she was having a hard time with a shed, but then one day she recognized a catfish sitting on the table as food and started eating it.  Now I'm going to offer catfish until toads are available again, and she will be the &quot;teacher&quot; to show other snakes it's ok to eat on that table.  There has been no other sign that it works as an appetite stimulant or that it is complete nutrition.</p></div>
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  <title>Madagascan Water Snakes (Liopholidophis)</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[<div class="rss-post"><p><strong>Original post</strong> by Thrasops &mdash; 2014-02-24 01:44:35 GMT</p><p>Hey folks, I will be picking up a group of Liopholidophis lateralis, labelled as Madagascan Water Snakes, this week and was wondering if anybody on here had any experience keeping them. As far as I can tell this is the first time they have been imported to the UK but was wondering if somebody over the pond had seen them before.</p>
<p>From what the importer says, they have not taken rodents or fish yet and it is likely they will need to be fed frogs, at least at first. But this is a pretty little species so I thought I would give them a go and see what I could do with them.</p>
<p>Any advice welcome.</p></div>
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