Ok here's 2 pics of Chip, he's my latest rescue who was brought to me after very nearly being killed by a dog so that's why his plastron is all acrylic.
My vet did a fabulous job putting him back together. You can see how big his tail is in both pics even though it's kind of far away as he's sneaking up on the sulcata you can't miss that long thick tail.
So you would say the diff in male & female muds is similar to this diff in box turtles?






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PHRatz

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