Shane, great pics. Even better than the first time, 'cus a got a few more pics of the quads. Is the one showing the venter a DOR, or is that snake playing dead?

I'm going to post a few photos too, just to compliment what you're putting up. Those four-lined rats are great, but for nydon and dinodon, here's an Elaphe climacophora too. This one's from Kunisar Island...


I don't keep climacophora or conspicillata anymore, as of 2004, but both of these are very interesting snakes. Here's a couple pics of one of my conspics, one showing the ventrum...


One interesting thing about these snakes is that they seem to be quite cool-adapted, with fairly long brumation periods in the wild. Climacophora makes a great pet snake, being much like a N. A. ratsnake in temperment. Conspicillata is a very small snake, so doesn't take up much space. I would enjoy working with either of these snakes again.

Thanks for the post and hope you have lots of luck next summer. Shane, is your wife Japanese? I have a brother who is married to a South Korean girl. Her whole family has moved here, however, so they don't go back there. The late Lloyd Lemke was married to a South Korean girl also and he used to visit often enough. I'm married to a Norwegian girl and that's a handful enough..haha! I'd go to Norway with her, but there wouldn't be much herping there, dernit!

TC

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