Bert,
You are a total disgrace to the reptile hobby. Just kidding. I have adult laticinctus that are as tame as any cornsnake. I have juveniles that I have not touched with success. As a matter of fact the last couple of times I tried to it went so bad I have sworn off touching them. I only clean the cage when they are in the hide boxes even. My adults were fairly psycho when they were small and just outgrew it one day. I hope for the same with my youngsters but won't be disappointed if they don't tame. I'm not much on walking around the house with a snake in my hands anyway.

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