I'm getting them off Cliff Flock. He has some great looking tokays. The two I'm getting off him have great color and look nice and healthy. They are about 6 months old I want to say he told me. I'm gonna mess with them all the time. I'm not worried about pain. I bred parrots also, no lizard bite is gonna faze me the way a parrot bite hurts. I'm not saying that their bites don't hurt but I'm use to getting bit on a regular basis by my birds. I already have the enclosure and everything set up. I'll post pics as soon as I get them. I know what you mean about this. I use to be on kingsnake all the time but when I use to write comments and never got any feedback I pretty much left. I go to geckosunlimited and repashyforums now. Their are a ton of people on there and they are very informative on all the different species of gecko out there.

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