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RE: Panacur

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Posted by: reptoman at Thu Jul 31 11:25:52 2008  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by reptoman ]  
   

Mark as a general rule I do panacur most of my lizards twice a year, I do believe their is a benefit, and while the discussion went right to nematodes, there are other issues possible such as Fireside is suggesting, our soil here is not desert soil it is Belgian soil which is dark rich soil which I beleive does harbor possibly fungal or even other types of possible ingestants. So I am of the opinion that it might be a good thing always to panacur any wild caught, I just did this to my new yellow head collared after he started eating and has settled down. Actually we have discussed this in the past, I only suggested that it would be interesting of Dr. Snelling or others could comment on this. Or possibly take samples from different areas and actually do a microscopic analysis of some of these different ants. I think it would be facsinating, and I notice that your comment is that your lizards in Arizona do well with not doing anything. Well when I have received wild caught horned lizards here and they are mice and fat, I notice there is a period of time where they lose weight and then I don't believe my ants here are dangerous, thats not the case but I think there is a period of time where they need to get used of the ants here. Maybe this is stupid, certainly its not scientific and just a conjecture on my part, but Mark I have seen this enough to be comfortable with this as a possible explanation, because I do find some reason these lizards lose weight and it takes time to get them up and running. With respect to many or most lizard species it is a normal regimen to panacur a wild caught animal. I usually let them settle down and get acclimated first, but as a general rule I do....ALso Fireside, I have a little secondary 2 ft x 16" plastic container with a clamp light and put my hl's on paper (Paper towel) and give them laced crickets. I want to get some liquid panacur but haven't found it, I will check tractor supply to see if they have it, but then one must be careful with doses. For the sake of this conversation and the sake of those who are intersted in taking good care of their HL's could I suggest if this wouldn't be an imposition and could we take pictures of our methods for panacur, and if you use a dropper or syringe. what size and maybe show a dose, so all of us could be getting nformation that is viable. I don't think many of us Fireside (since this is your are of expertise) understand the dosing, not that we are dumb but usual or often we leave this up to a vet instead of ourselves, however in this case I think it would be helpful to everyone who has chimed in on this if this might be posted either on your site or ours or both with an explanation. IS that something we could do? OR not? Does Melissa Kaplan gave a dose per gram weight of the animal on her site? Just curious. What do you all think?????
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