Wow, that's a smoker. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. It does look a whole lot like a solare in the body that way huh? Absolutely beautiful specimen.

>>I'm sure Montanucci will get this sorted out when he is finished with his research. When Kelly Zamudio elevated the subspecies P. douglasi douglasi to full species she stated all other sub species would now be under P. hernandezi. I didn't take it as all the subspecies merged just that they were all now under P. hernandezi.The picture you posted from the one north of Winslow (Painted Desert) is also from P. hernandezi ornatissimum. You can tell by the circular dorsal pattern, double neck blotches, upward directed horns. In the case of the one you just posted most of the horns are just worn down. If you look at the furthest right horn it is the last one standing. Here are a couple more shots of the same one to show my point.
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