I was thinking about buying Hubbs book and likely will. I've been reading online for a few years now and it seems like no new info ever pops up as far as research and study. Does Hubbs book provide a significant level of information on L.ZZ? I've been driving, hiking, and sweating the last three days. Even though I found not so much a shed, (found some rattlers) I still love herping. Been doing it from about he age of 5. Still above all I want to find one of these snakes. Thanks guys, your comments have been motivating. I've heard through the grapevine, from a guy who knows a guy, who works up at the geysers, that they've found em. Any one tried up there? All I found were rattlers
Thanks Eric

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