Fair enough and maybe I was a bit harsh but the point I'm trying to make is that nobody is going to accept excuses for new species becoming established, even if it's a pretty understandable one. It's not a rule I'm making up to be an a-hole, it's just reality. Like you said, I think we should learn from this and move on but part of that means we have to accept that a hurricane is not an acceptable excuse in the future and I'm not sure everyone is on that same page yet.

Mike

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