Thanks Archie. I have not accurately measured my pair for some time now (I think not since 2008) but intend to do so during the spring. I know that both are over four feet for sure, but am unsure of the ages. The female I have had since 04 and she was around 30 inches when I got her and the male was around 40 inches in 06 when I got him. The male was said to have been around 8 years old at the time but I cannot verify that for sure either. The pair are living in a 12X6X4 enclosure with half land, and half water (which is 18 inches deep). The other have I have filled with 18 inches of a mixture of soil, sand, mulch and other organic material and they each have their own separate hides. I need to make a few changes to the enclosure this year. Id like to add a second black plastic hide like you can see in the picture below but bury both of them under the substrate to make things more naturalistic, and open up the land area so it isn't so cluttered. The males hide is a big, flat bottomed stump resting on a couple of 2X4 frames for support. Their ambient and basking temperatures have been lowered, as well as their photo period for this winter (my first winter doing this) and the level in their pond has lowered as well, so this spring I will adjust the heat and lights, fill the pond to the top again over a few weeks and spray heavily and cross my fingers!

Matt

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