I think the main person Grismer is refering to when he speaks about the bucket traps was actually a researcher too. I can't say his name but his initials are J.O. and he has since been busted.

I am totally in agreement with protecting rare herps. I am also against potentially harmful methods of take such as bucket traps, gassing, rock and tree damage. The fact remains that herps are undermanaged with little thought and even less data going into the making of the regulations. In many cases the regulations themselves are the primary reason many common herps have such a high dollar value. There is no law that can reduce the dollar value of a herp. Only captive breeding can and does reduce market values.

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