LMAO I have to agree it would be pretty intimidating going eye to eye with a CW that big. Even more so the EDR since they do have the fangs and venomous drool. LOL Big Pines are pretty spooky too when in strike position, mouth open and hissing like a jet engine.

BTW the kids are pissed at me. Thursday I got each of them out for some gentle handling and they all calmed down after just a few minutes. Now normally when I come into the room I see thier heads poking out of the bedding, periscoping and watching me. Last night not one head peeked out. LOL Tempremental, sheesh! Maybe today they will forgive me since it's been almost a week since they ate.

I've been keeping the daytime hot spot right at 100 with the cool end in the mid 70's with a full spectrum fluorescent. Nightime drop to about 80 on the hot side and high 60- low 70 on the cool side.
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BigT
There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. The ignorant can be taught, stupidity is beyond our control.
1.2 P. m. melanoleucus B/W N. J. Northern Pines
1.2 P. d. deppei Mexican Pines
2.2 P. l. lineaticollis Linis or Lined Pines
1.2 P. m. lodingi Black Pines
1.1 Drymarchon melenurus Blacktail Cribo
1.2 M. s. cheynei Jungle Carpet
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1.1 L. g. californiae B/W Cali kings
0.0.3 M. f. flagellum Eastern Coachwhips
1.2 G. m. bottegoi Western Plated lizards

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