yea i found out about gold fish for the first time today even though i have been researching these guys for yrs due to i have wanted one since i was a teenager and now have the space, money and what i thought was enough exp to care for them. But sadly i came home after running around for a lil bit after the last post and he was gone. I have ordered dewormer but it prob wont get hear till monday to give my other guy as a prevenitive but to ans. ur question he is in a 4 ft by 2 ft enclosure with 18 in. of land and one side basking one side has a hide that either of them never use, the remaining caimen is about 10 in. long. i cant get him to touch the mazuri croc chow. The stress level i didnt see as a issue due to my reptile rooms only traffic is my self 2 to 3 times a day but never loud or bothering them just feeding and cleaning. I just cant seem to get what was up with the dialated pupils, it makes me think ammonia poison from the gold fish maybe but the water was pretty clear. it hasent seemed to effected the other one. Also yes i have about 10 gals of water in the tank and the submersible filter is rated at 20 gals. i do the changes once a week due to when i was a kid i owned turtles and i remember what it smelled like if i didnt keep on top of them.

Sorry for rambaling im actually a lot more upset then i thought id be.
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Tom C.



0.1.0 emerald tree boa

1.3.0 albino nelsons milk snake

0.0.2 smooth front dwarf caimen

1.2.0 panther chameleons

0.0.1 columbian boa

0.0.1 red bearded dragon

0.0.1 tokay gecko

0.0.1 golden gecko

0.0.1 savannah monitor

0.0.1 leopord gecko

0.1.0 pit bull dog

0.1.0 mixed toy dog

2.0.0 mixed cats

0.0.1 blue and gold macaw

0.0.5 marble angel fish

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