A third issue is CDFG placing a limit on take or possession of herps. Oregon has no such limits and my home state is not running short of Gopher Snakes, Night Snakes, Rubber Boas, S. Alligator Lizards, Rough-skinned Newts, etc.

From a wildlife mgt. point of view, bag and possession limit are needed where demand has the potential of being so great as to affect the sustainability of desired species. That simply isn't the case with most species of herps with turtles being a glaring exception since they are prized for their food value.

Like so many other states, Calif. is managing species that are not in need of being managed.

Richard F. Hoyer

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