terrapene,

Sorry for coming across as "paternalisic", let me say I think that your description of your 200 sq ft outdoor habitat sounds really adequate for 5 and I'm sure that ten successful years reflects excellent husbandry.

I was not trying to "tell you to do something quick" for Sonny. I did, however, suggest that you "consider" and I went on to lay out perfectly reasonable concerns about Sonny's stress level and it's consequences, remember, Sonny can not escape his situation as he normally would in the wild. Any seasoned and responsible boxie keeper will concur with me on those statements.

Also, aside from Sonny's well being, I was thinking of you, suggesting that it might save you some headache and/or heart ache, at some point in the future.

Lastly, I have one book of reference that easily supercedes all of the books of the academic libraries, I therefore respectfully decline any further discourse on Louie's behavior. As you said: "make of it what you will".

-Spence

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