BTW I do not believe that I was the one that stated that taking the adult males was sustaining the population. Someone else stated that in response to my saying I take the big ones. I did state I was taking adult males. I do so because they are bigger, easier to sex (so I do not take females), the ranchers want the biggest ones taken because of the threat to livestock as they are big enough to kill a cow or sheep/goats, and for those people who want a big show snake.

To hold true with your "scientific facts", those that field collect any Herps to augment their breeding colonies, should only be taking very young snakes and not take a breeder out of the wild as they may cause a decline in the population.

ECTimaeus

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