This is no deal! Order it from a Feed & Seed Store. Or if you live deap in a large city call 1-800-227-8941 www.mazuri.com.to find a location. I get 25 lbs for $25.00. I have never seen it in small bags,so you can make small bags and take them to herp meatings and make your money back. Its good but not worth 38.00 for 9 lbs, and does that include shipping? Sulcuta's will eat Alfalfa witch is 18% proteen so just add vitamens. Other forest torts.will benafit greatly. VM

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