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Bumped up from below, diet and sick anim

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Posted by: FR at Tue Jan 3 10:55:15 2012  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]  
   

This is in responce to Harveys canned diet formulated by a MS in nutri.

Thats the problem, that kind of answer, is so out of context to the current level of keeping.

Heres the reality, vets are WAY behind, and for good reason, their business and practice are based on poor methods of keeping, My bet is, there is not one specialist in varanid reproductive medicine In the whole country. Or even any classes in any university that is current with our NOW level of success.

How this relates to you and Cindys recomendation is, with current husbandry methods, this canned food is obsolete.

In otherwords, these canned foods help when conditions are poor and stay poor. But are so not needed with condtions are good. Not even with recovery.

The same is true for illness, under current known good conditions, Monitors do not get sick. Because current conditions support the immune system. We just do not see the common illnesses caused by pet shop conditions, and commonly treated by vets.

So with nice folks like Harvey, they search the internet and are comparing their animal to other animals in the same condition and with the same outlook. History says, your Sav will die, as most before it. and I mean most. So if you want to change the outcome, they do something different.

ALso nice folks like Harvey, care and care alot. But caring and love or whatever, has no effect on the outcome. In fact, over caring seems to be a huge problem. By protecting monitors from what is normal to them.

What some here and I are attempting to get across to Harvey, is what a actual healthy monitor is like.

Heres the problem, its like first graders being taught by other first graders. The ones learning will find that a very easy class. But if they're taught by high schoolers or college level folks, those same first graders will be challanged and find it much harder to understand.

Back to Vets, nothing against them, but their market and experience is based on failing animals, not on successful animals. More later,


   

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