Right. I'm back.



FR:" The only way to actually judge methods is to compare results.

... But for some reason, you shy away from that. And you are allowed to for whatever reason you want.

... I have no idea why your refrain from listing your females results. "



What a weird thing to say, as I did list the results relevant to this conversation. This conversation is about nesting husbandry. I told you how many clutches my female laid per year and how many babies she's had in total. Go back to my post and read it. The only questions from your previous post vaguely relevant to this conversation that I did not answer were hatch rate and number of eggs per clutch. Here you go, just for fun:



Egg viability is around 95% at laying, meaning I'll get an egg now and then that fails a few weeks into incubation. Of the remaining eggs, the hatch rate is over 99%. Every one has hatched but a single full term dead-in-egg a couple of years ago.



Egg number per clutch: One year she had a weird clutch of only 3 eggs, but aside from that the number of eggs per clutch varies from 5 to 11, with a calculated mean of 8.



A more important stat/result: My lone female's reproductive effort has already surpassed the combined total of every single female lace monitor you've ever owned and she's still going. According to you, you were on F3 by the time I started so you've had several years' jump start on me.



THE most important result in a conversation about nesting husbandry: Every single female lace monitor you've ever owned has died of reproductive failure. I can't think of any result more relevant to a conversation about nesting husbandry than that, for we all know the connection between poor nesting and reproductive failure. You said it yourself here:

FR:" Just to make it a bit real, I produced well over a hundred lacies, from four females, some laying five clutches a year, AND I STILL DID NOT HAVE NESTING RIGHT. As I lost each and every female to early reproductive failure."

(link: forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1958520,1958673)



As I said earlier, ignoring that stat to discuss other 'results' is like rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic. To use another metaphor/idiom, that 'result' is the elephant in the room that cannot be ignored. It is crucial to this conversation.



That's why I found it so odd that you've created all sorts of theories about wild lace monitors nesting in sawdust and leaf litter based on those results, and then had turned around to Mike and said this (from the same link, above)

FR:You see, you may want to make theories over, one situation what was marginally successful. "



But to humour you by discussing results, now it's my turn to ask for you to share a few facts and figures about your female lace monitors which are far more relevant to this conversation:



1. Time from mating to egg laying. Minimum, maximum (I already know your average is six weeks)



2. Reproductive lifespan - number of years laying eggs before death by reproductive failure, total number of clutches per lifespan. Minimum, maximum, average.

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