Tell that to my second generation Mt.Tortoises! Or the servivers of a 4.5 ton confascated shipment of turtles/tortoises that are now "DEFYING DESTINY" and reproducing in captivity sence 2001. Or tell that to the ones burned up in fires. Or Natures cruel and inefficient plan for servival with nest predation and males that fight to the death. GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE its just not fun here anymore. Vic Morgan pic This one was in the 4.5 ton shipment, reproducing and loving life in captivity.

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