Dan,

Ok rub it why don't you? I keep trying to get a pick of that Rcer subspecies & missing them! Another sighting today. One day three weeks ago, I walked up to one frozen in the grass & did not see him until we were looking in each other's eyes! He took off. If they would only sit still for a minute.

Matthew
PS. Where do you find such beautiful gartersnakes? Those were insane.

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