Chris,

I've seen that photos somewhere before - very interesting specimen, and a good candidate for being a hybrid.

I also find the discussion interesting, and I doubt you (or anyone else) could change my mind - I'm pretty stubborn. LOL Actually, I've gone back and forth over my leanings on this subject, and I just feel like the similarities outweigh the differences between Baird's and Lindheimer's. I certainly agree with you on all points of habitat preference, and the separation of the two species - and also the fairly recent re-convergence.

On becoming a member over there, it is only the initial membership which requires the paper application - and you can now renew your membership online. I would personally be very happy to see you over there as a member, and I think we have a good thing going...
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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

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