I have outdoor cages, indoor cages, indoor/outdoor cages, have had varanids in them since 1991.

They do not need the sun, the sun does not help with appetite. They tend to avoid the sun as much a possible. They are only attracted to Bright, when they have a EXTREME need for heat.

Other to indicate where heat is, they have no need for bright lite, as soon as they warm up, they will move to areas of low lite.

About Bert, he was a friend of mine, He only worked with lizards that would FIT his system. Monitors did not and he failed with them.

ALso it was not his cages that allowed him to succeed with some lizards, it was his endless ability to WORK, that was the reason for his success. He seemed to enjoy doing that work, the hardest way possible.

While you sit around thinking of this and that, Bert and I, have an ability to Do what we think and if that fails, try something else, and if that fails, try something else again, Not just think of something else, DO IT.

Please do not be offended, but anybody can think of this or that(theory) very few can actually apply it and make it work.

I take my hat off to Bert, he could make the goofyist ideas work. We were brothers in that area.

We both also had one other approach that allowed our success, and that is, we both understood that in order to be successful, we needed an endless supply of food for our charges , so we both not only bred lizards(reptiles) but the food they ate. Which was as important as breeding the lizards.

So it boils down to the tennis shoe slogan, JUST DO IT! Then you will learn what is needed, after all, what else are you going to do, sit on your bum and THINK!!! Bert could read just like you, maybe better, but it boils down to DOING IT. Thats where you fall flat, your all about ideas and not about doing. I hope I am wrong, but I am not, am I? This is not meant as an insult, you see, the fun is in the doing, not the thinking.

Just go to the zoo and watch gorillas, they sit arount all day thinking, and all they want, is to DO SOMETHING.

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