I ll never forget the minor coronary i had the first time i saw my female upsidedown! Freaked me the f&$@ out.... of my pair from d. Price the male.was about 3' and the female about 4' when i got em. Within 2 years the female was just over ten and the male around 8&1/2' They and my womas had insane feeding drives. The first time the male bhp tried to eat my thumb was both surprising and all in all pretty dang funny. Just outra the blue...no prior rodent handling on my part....just"Monkey, i'z gonna eats you now, so hold still...." needless to say, i got away....but it was touch and go for a minute or two as he was already 3&1/2' feet of pure serpentine power.... i did read somewhere the real trick with those guys is crayfish..and cornrats of course, in fish tanks with newspaper and a shoebox with a hole cut on the side, screen top, hot rock and a 25 watt uv bulb in a reflector on top. ...i just cant keep up with all this innovation...maybe i ll just switch over to Heterodon......

Guy

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