Bulls I caught in Colorado were typically short and on the slender side. Big bulls I have seen although very long don't seem to have the true size/girth say of some Black Pines I had that easily consumed jumbo rats. Although not as large as the longest bulls I have seen, their girth was impressive.

One breeder I know of that at one time was a regular here I believe may still have such massive Black Pines I speak of. Hoping he posts some pics.

Ball Python sites get more Pituophis hits than here these days? Times have changed. Pity.

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