I am going to post a couple of links to bites. But first...

What is the difference between venomous and "toxic" in your opinion?

Not believeing that hognose snakes are indeed venomous is just as bad as not believing the world is round. You have all the evidence, bite reports, VENOM analysis studies but a few find it hard to come to terms with the facts. It is very odd behavior to me.

Anyway, here are a couple of links. Actually 8 other accounts of hognose bites with lots of swelling. These links do not include Troys bite or the infamous Herpnet bite.

http://www..com/forums/heterodon/92706-hognose-venom-debate-over.html

http://www..com/forums/heterodon/92593-hognose-bite.html

http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/forums/snakes/836891-wehey-hognose-bite.html

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37267

http://www.fieldherpforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2239

http://southwesternherp.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1337982785/2

http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/forums/snakes/586889-hognose-bite.html

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