I made a show pickup of some ruthveni. These were 8-9 yo pair that were thrown in to sweeten a deal. After I got them I was talking to another friend at the show and he had some suspicions about the ruthveni claim.

I work with pituophis mainly and am certainly not an expert on var. mex. kings. So I thought I'd throw these pics up and see what feedback I get from you guys. I also picked up some yearling thayeri that look great from the same guy. He complained about taxonomy changing every other day and that these were definitely ruthveni.

They looked like ruthveni to me and still do but it's something that's been bugging me.

Is there something in these that I'm not seeing?

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