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Posted by: FR at Mon Jan 13 08:42:17 2014  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]  
   

Your right, when I got into hogs, the first thing I did was get some books, talk to people etc. What I discovered was, there was a huge neglect with nesting. And I have been consistent with that. Last year, I helped to keepers here receive better results.

People showed nestings that were not actual nestings, they were abortions, that is, the females throwing out eggs in order to survive the ordeal. When in all reality, laying eggs is normal and none stressful and does not cause extreme weight lose or stress.

So if I am a Arse for attempting to help YOU see that it may be a better approach to actually learn to do something that's EASY to do, that only allows young females to not become egg bound, but also help all size females to endure less stress and also not become egg bound.

And yes, that is something I will keep on saying as long as there are folks like you that let their egos get in the way, instead of learning a tiny little bit about the snakes you put in cages, How about learning how to prevent the problem, not bandage it.

If you had knowledge of their reproductive processes, you would have said, If your going to a have females under 200 grams reproduce, please be sure to support good nesting and hydration.

Also last year, two keepers, one extremely successful and knowledgeable, attempted the style of nesting I am promoting, and both saw improvement and observed interesting behaviors they had not seen. ON THEIR FIRST ATTEMPTS. And those attempts were minimal. But plenty good to observe positive results. So why didn't you mention that? ALso this forum is a husbandry forum, that means to husband or support. To support what these animals naturally do, not prevent it for fear of failure. Particularly when its easy to do.
Lastly, your response was sad and normal, instead of discussing the subject, or questioning the hows and whys, you attack the keeper attempting to help. Basically speaking, that means you have not actual retort.


   

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