Discern, its nice that you take the time to be argumentative. But to who's benefit. Its surely not about benefiting the animals in captivity.
Countering assumptions with assumptions is clearly of no value.
You also use nothing to support any opinion of your own. Do you actually have one, or do you just not want others to have one? To me, that is the key question, with the most important answer.

You questioning his examples is odd, while its not about how exacting they were, they made a valid point. My GUESS IS he really really under estimated, in his examples.

I will ask this. There are a handful of HUGE colubrid producers. I did a little research and they are producing upwards of 250,000 units a year, and have been for many years. So in a few years, a million hit the market. Where are they?
If you look at the numbers hog breeders produce, just look at the few of the classifieds, where are they now, where do they all go.
Theres a point here, if a high percentage of that million reproduced, and those reproduced, etc. With hogs, if 80% of the hogs reproduced, the market would be flooded beyond belief.
So where to they go? So if you look at the numbers produced and how many actually do well. Its a very very very small percentage. So Gregg is way off, its worse then he indicated. part 600000000000000

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