I think the point that FR is trying to make is these Cali kings are tough.. They don't "stress" as much as some of us think.

Sometimes FR make his piont in a strong way and goes overboard with his passion to make US THINK! Sometimes a reaction is better than no reaction.. SO don't take it personal Aaron. It is all about making us think.

Back in the 80's we used to take hard stubborn feeders for a drive in our cars. That is how we would get them to eat.. to stimulate a feeding response. While I do not understand this "stimuli" to eat. It worked.. and worked many times for many herpers back then.

So maybe what we think as stress may not be stress (for this particular species of snake)but other things that are stress we don't consider.

Basically Kingsnakes and their eggs are as tough as they can get *shakes head*. Their eggs can get pretty cold and you don't have to worry about placing them in their incubation boxes right side up ect.



Also when I ship neonate Florida kingsnake to folks, I ask that they feed their kings the first day they arrive.. Even in winter!@.. I tell them just to heat them up and they will eat and settle in (rather than wait for several days or a week by leaving them alone-as if that actually helps the snake!) Most people don't understand this and the few that have not taken my advice found some problems with feeding after waiting a week -surprise surprise!~

these kings can take some handling as long as they are supported in other ways discussed in these threads in the past week.
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FR quote:
"Doing the same things over and over expecting to learn something else, is the definition of insanity"

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