An intergrade zone is defined as having patterns of both parent subspecies and also intermediate patterns. See Blaney's paper on common kingsnakes (a classic). I find it interesting that you describe an intergrade zone perfectly, but do not seem to know what it is. Also, solid Black kings do not occur "everywhere". They only occur in certain places in AZ. You have mentioned "Black cal kings" around LAX, but show no proof of this statement.

You also said nothing about how you misinterpreted Hubbs' map. Is your ego getting in the way a little? I may be a lurker who seldom posts, but I see no reason to belittle another herper's point of view while you push your own and make erroneous statements about what Hubbs said...at least he showed pics to justify his map and explained how he examined 100s of specimens in museums. I just don't get you...

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