thanks for these posts. good info to think about... i love having things to think about.

in regards to the original getula coming up from mexico and spreding across the US. Do you think that form stayed the same as it spread across the US and all of the country was basically the same as far as habitat and after establishing a range then began changing as habitat changed? Or do you think that original version slowly changed while spreding as it encountered new habitat to adapt to?

I guess there's no way to know how it happened, just curious on your thoughts.

I think if animals A all became B,C,D, and E independently then there could be something to intergrades. However if animals A existed and some became B and some of B became C and some of C became D, etc.. as adaptations to new habitat occured then intergrades dont make much sense and the forms of kings we see today are just what they are and not a mix of two ssp. If thats the case, trying to classify them into 6-7 ssp (or less) seems silly because there are countless isolated versions of kings out there.

fun to think about (at least to me)

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