Greybands are not montane. By the way, what is montane?

Not to make fun but, z's are a montane king found at sea level in several places. Alterna, occur is low lying rocky ranges, mostly limestone, but not restricted to limestone. A bit like lyresnakes. In fact a lot like lyresnakes.

Lyresnakes are also found in our mountains, as high as pyros, and willlards and legs and twinspots.

To explain, and what I said was indeed true by air temp measurements. The reality may have been, because I lived in SoCal, the shelves and room etc was much lower in temperature, therefore my bet is, the substrate was cooler then the air temps. Most likely in the low 80's maybe even high seventies.

And your right, high consistent temps does cause infertility. and that varies with species. An extreme example, my first outdoor Ackie breedings, they were copulating in the sun, air temps, 108F sitting there for hours. I said to myself, infertile, they have to be infertile. They were not infertile, in fact very much the opposite. They would sit in shade lines four inches wide. 108F is in the shade, in the sun was 135 to 145F. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm we know so little.

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