Hi Gregg, Thanks and about egos, These arguments are not about my ego or yours. In fact very much the opposite.

I am confident in my obsevations. As a keeper, I am only different in that I am confident enough to test, unknown and known. And keep testing them.

I am not invested like you and others in that, I am not selling anything. I can come and play and see what works.

Also as I mentioned many times, I am working with kennerlyi, and they do appear to be MORE of a burrower then westerns. There is lots of differences not noted in the papers(azygous and loreals) if you look at the build of the kennerlyi head, its more of a solid scalation and wedge. Body shape is also different. Of course our environment is hotter and dryer then western hog range. So its logical.

As you know, nesting and varanids, changed the way they were kept. In the beginning, I had the same exact "discussions" with the monitor experts of the time. With hogs, its not nearly the same, snakes are much much more tolerant of "foreign" nesting. The times and info you gave were great. Also as you know, many here had nesting problems and related egg binding. Hopefully something tested will help those interested. Those breeding for numbers, can do whatever is best for them.

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