Your still just a person. Why does everything you write have to disparage. Even mass murderers have a good side. But thanks for the hidden compliment.

The real point is, all my stuff isn't about the END product, what a forum is for is the journey. The start, the middle and progress along the way. But you cannot wait for any of that, as it would hinder what you do. To disparage.

With life experience you understand, the journey is far more important then the end.

I never asked you or anyone to be part of my journey, or believe, or not, what I do or will do. What I do, is for me.

And I do believe that's the part that scares so many of you. What I do is not about you, or the concensus, or what others do or think. I explained that on the first day. I said then and again now, I do I for me and anyothers that are INTERESTED. As I said one million times, if your not interested, then don't even read my posts.

Oddly, my first hognose cage is going to have deep nesting(at all times, deep substrate, and a real nice looking cage, Temp control for the bottom layer and a different system for the top. The next version will have all this, and more. Or I can keep them in a drawer if needed. And still be fun to look at and observe. And, I will be building some racks for my son. As that's how he wants to keep them.

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