"You're making this way too long winded"

Hey buddy, you're the one who keeps this topic alive by disputing Frank and Gregg's results because they are not "proven" or "scientific" or some other nonsense. That's ok though, because it brings more attention to a topic that sorely needs attention. You are clearly a smart, although relatively inexperienced, dude who is doing very well with his hogs. The fact that you keep engaging people on this topic tells us that you are doing it for a personal reason, unrelated to the snakes. It seems to me that you are engaging Frank, a well known pioneer in the hobby, and Gregg, a well respected hog breeder, simply to make more of a name for yourself by taking on the "big boys". Which is fine, but a few things need to be addressed, first when you continually bring up supposed conversations with un-named, but well known breeders that allegedly dispute the results that are being shared, it draws credibility away from you, because without a named source, your secondary evidence is worthless. These are folks that choose not to report for themselves, and they don't want to be named, so who knows if they really exist.

Also, by continuing to attack Gregg, because he had two girls that became eggbound despite better nesting options is meaningless. This is because folks with experience beyond a few years know that bad nestings have a cumulative effect on females. Again, we know this because we've seen it. The fact that you haven't seen it is obvious, but your lack of experience doesn't take away from these realities.

Jonny, we can keep going, but the fact remains that you are going against this evidence, however anecdotal, because you don't want it to be true. However, our collective experiences prove that it is happening. Anyway, keep bringing it and we'll keep this conversation alive. Have a great night.

Will

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