"So the question is, is the ones being offered for sale, not genetic greens and reds, or just poor quality individuals? Or are they simply misrepresenting them?"

Thanks for the compliment Frank.
To answer your question, I think it is a combination of all your point.

The reds and greens for the most part are polygenic traits that are not reliably reproduced. Or not as reliable as lets say recessive, dominant, or co-dominant genes. So you will see a wide variation within a single clutch. Some lines are stronger than others and will be more reliably produced.

So the ones we see for sale for the most part are not the best of the best. I am somewhat of a hoarder when it comes to what I produce so the best animals in my clutches usually stay with me. I will sell off the ones that I do not feel with improve my personal projects. While the ones I do sell are really high quality, the ones I keep for me are even higher in quality.

And one of my pet peeves is people misrepresenting their animals. The problem seems to stem from people being caught up on line names. We often see ads for extreme reds that are not even close to being red. It just perpetuates as people get into the line name and are not paying attention to what is actually going on with the animal itself. They will still call it an extreme red even though the animal clearly is not red. Pretty sad in my opinion.

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