I will do more research, and will plan to get more photos, including some of head & belly, and post them in a later post.

You are ABSOLUTELY right - it does not matter what people say nor perceive. It only matters what is true - and whether or not you understand the truth.

Since you have lived in the home range of both, and have seen specimens of both, I add more weight to your options expressed here.

I've always thought that he looked Floridana or Booksi, too.

(Thought that you lived in Prescott from some post long ago, but you may have been detailing a herp trip in that area. Don't know, doesn't matter. I've been to Tucson, LOVED the area for many reasons. Can hardly wait until Sabino Canyon grows back the lost vegetation.)

Cheers!

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