return to main index

  mobile - desktop
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter follow us on YouTube link to us on LinkedIn
Click here for LLL Reptile & Supply  
Click here for LLL Reptile & Supply
Mice, Rats, Rabbits, Chicks, Quail
Available Now at RodentPro.com!
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: Herp Photo of the Day: Happy Rattlesnake Friday! . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day: Reticulated Python . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - Oct. 22, 2021 . . . . . . . . . .  Richmond Reptile Expo - Oct. 23, 2021 . . . . . . . . . .  Hampton Roads Exotic Pet Expo Augusta - Oct. 30, 2021 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - Nov. 03, 2021 . . . . . . . . . .  Central Illinois Herp Society Meeting - Nov. 04, 2021 . . . . . . . . . .  Calusa Herp Society Meeting - Nov. 04, 2021 . . . . . . . . . .  All Maryland Reptile Show - Nov. 06, 2021 . . . . . . . . . .  Madison Herp Society Meeting (Milwaukee) - Nov. 10, 2021 . . . . . . . . . .  Madison Herp Society Meeting (FoxValley) - Nov. 10, 2021 . . . . . . . . . .  Madison Herp Society Meeting - Nov. 12, 2021 . . . . . . . . . . 

full banner - advertise here .50¢/1000 views
Frances Pauli is an award winning author with a new fantasy novel all about snakes
pool banner - $50 year

RE: Reason for all the Russians....and answer

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Russian & Greek Tortoises ] [ Reply To This Message ]
[ Register to Post ]

Posted by: tglazie at Thu Sep 29 06:19:41 2005  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by tglazie ]  
   

This guy is right. None of the females for sale these days approach even six inches. Russians aren't a new thing in the trade. They've been THE wild-caught tortoise for over six years now. I got my first one from an overcrowded petstore tank seven years ago. I can only imagine the number of animals that have been sold to be somewhere in the thousands. Even if only one petstore per city sold ten per year, that is still sixty tortoises over six years, and we all know the numbers to be much greater than that (San Antonio, for example, has six petstores that sell Russian tortoises regularly; I see some of them turn over a tank of six to nine every month or so in spring and summer). Even if only five percent of these animals survived with breeders, it would be enough to generate the animals I've seen listed in classifieds.

As for the hatchlings showing up on wholesalers' lists, I don't know any wholesalers, so I couldn't speak intelligently about what they're up to. However, international tortoise farms don't seem too far fetched and are, for me, the next most likely explanation. All I can say is that people have been farming Iguanas in Central America for years now and have made quite a lucrative trade in these animals. Russians are fairly easy to breed. All you need is some nice dry weather with seasonal variation, two or three tortoises of appropriate size, and an incubator. Sure, clutch sizes are small, but I'm sure if you had a few acres and a few dozen tortoises, it could be done. I heard of something like this happening with Hermanns tortoises a year back. Some folks were offering "farm-raised" Hermanns for extremely low prices.

Anyone have any experience with these new youngsters? Anyone have any experience with "farm-raised" animals?


   

[ Reply To This Message ] [ Subscribe to this Thread ] [ Show Entire Thread ]


>> Next Message:  RE: Reason for all the Russians....and answer - BarryL, Thu Sep 29 23:23:07 2005

<< Previous Message:  RE: Reason for all the Russians....and answer - EJ, Thu Sep 29 03:56:55 2005