....but not new to torts or reps. we plan on checking out this forum now as well since the boa forum has been such a wealth of info for me. just wanted to introduce ourselves (john and muriel). i have had torts since i was born basically (way back in 67), my mom had 4 desert torts and gave me the bug! back in the late 80's i bought my first "exotic tort" a "greek tortoise"(testudo graeca ibera),which i still own but lives in so cal with my mom. (we now live in the country outside chicago)she is also keeping the male counterpart and a pair of hermanns torts. muriel and i currently have a group of female leopards (8), 1.2 w/c pancakes i bought from ron tremper back in the 90's along with 2 males that hatched out here. we have some eggs cooking now as well. (actually the recent surge of adult pancakes for sale is what prompted me to jump on the forum for the first time to see what was going on!)i REALLY need another adult male as one of my females consistently lays 2 eggs at a time but not one has proved to be fertile (genetic disparity?). 2 female redfoots, 2 female hingebacks (need some males in the future), 2.1 specks hingebacks (pictured), a pair of spiders, and last but not least, (probably our favorites for their personalities) 1.1.3 burmese browns. we have had many other reps along the way( chameleons....oh the money i spent on those!!argh!!, bearded dragons, monitors, geckos, colubrids,etc. we currently breed several boa species, ball pythons, arizona mtn kings and have a trio of cyclura iguanas). muriel has always helped me with the torts but last summer something snapped in her head and she became a tortoise freak, demanding outdoor tortoise enclosures,tortoise tables,etc,lol! i still have a few things to build and hopefully will fence off a nice area alongside our deck that will be the "burmese brown grazing yard". we have been talking about how cool it would be to sit out on the deck and watch those big guys cruising about...... funny how that was talked about in a post below! we have made a few mistakes along the way (monkey chow...need i say more!). anyway,,,,,howdy and expect to see us sharing pics and observations and asking some questions. thanks, for looking, john and muriel

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