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Posted by: tbrock at Fri Oct 20 06:38:43 2006 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by tbrock ]

Terry, Conant has the record length for Elaphe guttata emoryi at 57 inches (the length my meahllmorum beat). He had E.g. guttata at 72 inches and E.g. rosacea at 66 inches, although no mention of intermontana. Another interesting thing about this old field guide is sub-subspecies. Conant has E.o.deckerti as a ssp of E.o.rossalleni and E.o. williamsi as a ssp of E.o.spiloides. I consider this guide to be a much better book than some of the newer ones out there, even though much of the information is outdated. I think that if we are going to consider meahllmorum and emoryi to be distinct ssps, then we should have separate record lengths for the two.

-Toby

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Monster Ratsnakes. - oklahomajoe, Tue Oct 10 20:11:00 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - Elaphefan, Tue Oct 10 20:51:16 2006

Not a monster - MurphysLaw, Tue Oct 10 23:07:40 2006

On his way to being one.. - lbrat, Wed Oct 11 11:17:37 2006

Wish I had pictures... - foxturtle, Fri Oct 13 06:59:31 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - antelope, Fri Oct 13 19:27:26 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - tbrock, Mon Oct 16 22:03:52 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - antelope, Mon Oct 16 23:39:08 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - ratsnakehaven, Sat Oct 14 12:38:54 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - tbrock, Sat Oct 14 14:00:57 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - BillMcgElaphe, Sun Oct 15 06:57:16 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - ratsnakehaven, Mon Oct 16 05:14:19 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - tbrock, Mon Oct 16 21:35:28 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - ratsnakehaven, Wed Oct 18 05:02:09 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - tbrock, Wed Oct 18 21:13:40 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - ratsnakehaven, Thu Oct 19 05:06:43 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - tbrock, Thu Oct 19 20:54:04 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - ratsnakehaven, Fri Oct 20 04:51:16 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - tbrock, Fri Oct 20 06:38:43 2006

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RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - Steve G, Sun Oct 15 21:16:56 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - ratsnakehaven, Mon Oct 16 05:15:40 2006

RE: Monster Ratsnakes. - foxturtle, Mon Oct 16 05:53:08 2006

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