Bert you've asked a very difficult question. I believe there is a website that tries to simulate for a color-sighted guy what the color-blind see. From what I've read it would look very yellow and blue to you. What I call red is definitely not what you know as red. Let's just say that the red areas on the mandarin are "red" to me.

What I look for on a Sichuan mandarin is bright yellow and black with a light grey background with a minimum of red tipping.

I equate the red tipping with a darker coloration that sometimes seem to darken the yellow areas over time. This I avoid. That being said, I have seen some very red mandarins that even though there may be a slightly less bright yellow color involved still look really great because of the very high contrast of the yellow against the dark red. I would be tempted by mandarins of that description but they have not been my focus.

The viets are a whole other thing. Their color scheme is very different. The viets with the red are extremely different from the chinese red mandarins. Then there are the viets where the yellow gets white-looking which is also very different and to me interesting. But it'll take me a while of observing the color changes first hand in my two viets for me to figure out what's what with my opinions on vietnam mandarin aesthetics.

Good talking to you Bert
Best regards,
John

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