Hey mate all i was doing was pointing out some ''errors'' in your e-mail. Just becasue you say put them on sand doesnt mean that is correct. I have read on here from dozens of people that sand is ok, sand is not ok, bark is ok, bark is not ok. I clearly pointed out that what was working for me was bark and that i made an of the cuff remark that my leo is not into meal or waxworms. (he does eat them but he would rather crickets)This is when you decided that i was ill treating my leo. The pics you show of you Leo's are what you regard as healthy right? If so then i am doing ok as mine look in proportion to yours. I have a friend who has had a leo for going on 14 years now and he has him on sand, feeds it only crickets (With no vitamins or calcium) and gives it regular water from a tap (Which i have also read is a no go) but his Leo is a monster. So i will point out once again that not all species react the same. I enjoy this forum and i have learned a lot from it but this is the first time i have seen someone (or been) attacked on it. Enjoy your mocha

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