I liked, does not that involve some Pit genes ? Oh yeah, it doesn't look like any other species of Lampropeltis or Pituophis. I may want my lines genetic integrity to not be compromised, I wouldn't want to inadvertently mix any genes from some hybrid you created then somewhere along the line some poor person thinks they got one specie, when indeed they got 2 instead. I feel that about any type of snake, not just the ones I work with as you stated. BTW I can personally guarantee my Northern's have no other Pit genes in their lineage. So you may start arguing at the wall.

Northern's are the nominate form genetically, according to most literature. So I do understand what you where trying to say about sayi. But your trying to measure, to an ideal, not proven, that occurred who knows when, in the past.
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

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