im sorry but as a lumper i dont buy into p.m.lodingi as a valid ssp. imho they are just melanistic variants of northerns so crossing the 2 would be fairly predictable some would have more melanin some wouldnt but it wouldnt make just the saddles more black. like w/obseleta cross a tx.rat w/a blackrat...samething
now the what you call "pileoffeces" pit crosses i did, i did to see if my theory was correct about p.m.ruthveni which btw they were/are.
the problem i have w/splitters is some variants are reffered to by some as their own ssp. and to cross them is evil when nothing more could be further from the truth imho a genus cant "hybridize" within itself, intergradation happens its how imho the ssp.came to be. alot of folks dissagree with that. to them i say "whatever" to each his/her own. i also say have fun snakes removed from the wild are DEAD to nature. keeping natural lines may be somes cupOtea but sooner or later they must realize there really is no point other than ones preferance which is admirable,but really...thats all it is ones preferance imho.
im also amazed at the paranoia that runs rampant w/the splitters like natural lines will be lost forever...forever gone,ruined,tainted its just silly imho take a true hybrid cross of genus' like cornXking breed the resulting offspring to either parent genus and guess what after a few generations one is pushed out completely it doesnt magically showup generations later its gone and about the piss&beer scenario living animals are not liquid and to suggest such shows their mentality,,,,,,,thomas davis
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