I'm going to keep trying with them until they produce, I don't really expect anything from this, so as far as selling them goes I don't want to count my 'chickens' before they hatch...I would probably end up keeping them all and try a sibling x sibling breeding as well. Unless this pair would produce again in which case I would let some go. It took awhile for them to finally start mating, he's been in her cage on and off since last season(of course separating for feeding and an occasional break) and they have only recently been copulating(that I've witnessed, because last season the female produced some infertile eggs, but I figured that was from being in with another blood that was a 'female' and they bred unplanned), the ball gets really hissy if I try to remove him so apparently he likes his girl Well like I said, I'm hoping for the best, but I don't plan to give up any time soon.

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