Dusty you are so right in saying that these guys are spectacular. As with most Baird's they look nice in photos, but they are more impressive in person. As far as size, from what I have seen in mine they do appear to get as big as the Texas populations and are very docile like the Texas forms are too. It is amazing that they have not received more attention from rat snake keepers...but that may be changing.

Scott John Reptiles

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