The snakes are definitely Diadem Snakes, and the smaller one is probably (Spalerosophis diadema cliffordi) as previously mentioned. The larger is probably the nominate race known as Spalerosophis diadema although hard to tell for certain. These combined subspecies have a very large range from north Africa, through Arabia, and into central Asia.

There are several ssp. of Diadem "ratsnake", more accurately closer to the genus of racers, than true ratsnakes.

In any case, forget about it being any form of North American Ratsnake.



~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

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• Please ID these rat snakes - MontessaPython, Mon Mar 3 15:44:14 2008
• wild guess - ameratsnake, Mon Mar 3 16:04:31 2008
• RE: wild guess - DraigGochHerp, Mon Mar 3 17:20:48 2008
• RE: Please ID these rat snakes - Elaphefan, Mon Mar 3 17:34:35 2008
• look more closely - ameratsnake, Mon Mar 3 22:40:55 2008
• RE: Please ID these rat snakes - brhaco, Mon Mar 3 17:48:35 2008
• RE: Please ID these rat snakes - cochran, Mon Mar 3 20:12:29 2008
• No doubt whatsoever ! - DMong, Tue Mar 4 00:00:09 2008